We may surmise and learn here that bnei Yisrael were transformed. Nor is there a reason to believe that the theophany on mt. This means to me that Gd spoke to the entire nation, but we don't know how, and we don't know when. That's the 64,000 shekel question. "Kathleen Kenyon determined "This has been catagorically disproven. Anthropology, Phenomenology and the Limitations of Scientific Rationalism in the Study of the Supernatural by Theodore S. Petrus Abstract Scientific rationalism has long been considered one of the pillars of true science. The second cup may not taste so good. It was given on Sinai, in the tent of meeting, and in the plains of Moav. Only after the Torah was read literally and used as a basis of knowledge outside of halacha and the Jewish people did it's authenticity become questioned. The rationalist reason is debatable, as has been said (although it can certainly be used to supplement other lines of reasoning).What about the other three criteria for belief? I need assistance with regards to validating the following statement: -Neither Empiricism nor Rationalism represents a satisfactory solution to the problem of knowledge. Plus, according to traditional sources, we wouldn't expect to find normal evidence during the Sinai journey because their clothes didn't disintegrate and they ate mann rather than cook and stuff. Also, you say that there is a difference between saying that matan torah didn't happen as described and matan torah didn't happen period - what does that mean to you? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on why a person would remain an Orthodox Jew if Yetziat Mitzrayim and Matan Torah never happened, other than if they are more comfortable with the lifestyle of OJ than the alternative. Here, too, I place limits on the practical implications of my independence in terms of action. Exploring the legacy of the rationalist Rishonim (medieval Torah scholars), and various other notes, by Rabbi Dr. Natan Slifkin, director of The Biblical Museum of Natural History in Beit Shemesh. Many, especially in Eastern modes of thought, extend this to say that if I have an experience that makes me feel that something is true, then I accept it as true. this one was hung on the wall""But herring doesn't whistle""Nu? Thank you! It was local. Rationalism may offer some guidelines in making the best guesses, but it cannot offer a guarantee for success. Type Article Author(s) Graham Hillard Date 31/03/2010 Volume 68 Issue 2 Page start 140 Page end 143 DOI 10.1080/00144941003723931 OpenURL Check for local electronic subscriptions Is part of Journal Title The Explicator ISSN 0014-4940 EISSN 1939-926X Short title The Explicator. Overall, there are both limitations and benefits to the Tyler rationale. Rationalism Is the Feasible Epistemological View The debate at hand is whether Rationalism or Empiricism is the better theory of knowledge. - why don't you engage people like Meir instead? "When I get the time, I will, but your direction to Rabbi Gottlieb seems to be exactly the type of biased second hand source you were dismissing earlier. Maybe you mean the Tanach uses "material evidence". "I'm really into archeology. It Relies On Non-experimental Methods C. It Lacks A Theoretical Framework D. All Of The Above 2. Third, you set yourself up for the same difficulties as the complete literalist; the moment anything is shown to be wrong your ontology takes severe structural damage.Not saying you are right or wrong. Therefore, they all have to be considered. (The nation as a whole is given the number 600, the tribal divisions are 12 (even though there are 14 divisions of the nation in actuality.. the 10 children of Yaakov, Ephraim, Menesha, Leviim and Cohanim), cycles are given the number 7, leadership or transformations are given the number 40 etc etc.. All the numbers in tanach follow motifs, or deviate from them in a specific way which leads to another motif. Using Rationalism as a Tool for Understanding Ourselves in the World . The non-orthodox groups, on the other hand, do not condemn the orthodox groups, although they may consider them to be backwards, crazy, or worse. The Main Limitation(s) Of Rationalism Is/are A. I have to agree with Tali regarding archeology. "It's not always possible to tell people to shut their minds off. ]Infinities are a little hard to deal with, so I like to think of it like this: Imagine that you have two cups in front of you. How exactly does the man know about the frog if it hides from humans? 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